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Seahawk72s
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« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2010, 08:19:21 PM »

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The shape of the blade was wavy in an attempt to make it look scary and it was generally considered the weapon of choice for the less then brave.

Sometime later knowing what you do of fencing and swords is there a blade that you like, that might translate well into a ship.
Something a "brave" skilled swordsmen would use..?
For example if you look at an Italian foil, the guard becomes a large solar sail, the pommel the engines and the
rectangular blade what ever you want.

Of couse my knowledge of swords only comes from books and some great movies....lol


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Jon
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« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2010, 09:02:37 PM »

Those look like the classic small swords that modern foils derive from. The small sword was used for dueling and the "foiled" version, (blunted point) for practice and training. Small swords and rapiers did not have a sharp edge and most rapiers had a v or triangle shaped blade.   The modern competition foil is completely different with a very flexible square blade. The handle is also completely different and is more of a pistol grip shape. The ones in your picture look like they have Spanish or Italian grips. Most people don't know that you don't grip a foil or epee with your whole hand. Only the thumb and index finger are used to grip and control the blade. The rest of your fingers are used to stabilize the blade.  Both a small sword and rapier were used only for stabbing.  The epee is derived from the rapier and is much lighter and shorter then the old rapier which is what is seen in most movies. Rapiers were pretty much useless for defense and were used as a jump in and stab and retreat type weapon. You also carried a rapier dagger which was almost as long as a sword. It was used as your defensive weapon and used to deflect the rapier being thrust at you. Sorry to say that epic duels as seen in the movies seldom took place and most duels were over in seconds.  Fighting a duel with small swords was very demanding with lots of rules which continue to this day. Because duels were to the death you can only score a point with what amounts to a kill shot. In the old days you could kill your opponent but if you violated the rules in doing so you lost the duel and were dishonored. All very silly considering you killed the guy.   The epee on the other hand was a duel to first blood so the entire body is a valid target.

OK, enough on swords. 
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« Reply #47 on: July 16, 2010, 09:30:58 PM »

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Most likely no where. I was just playing around a bit with some ideas. I don't want to take away from the Flamberge project.

I knew you would say that, understood.  I get all giddy when I see something shiny lol.  Just my two bits on fencing swords,  I've been doing crosswords everyday for twenty years and this Question still comes up-Name a four letter word for fencing sword...epee.  And that's about all I got on that one.  That and I think Christopher Lee is the only actor in Star Wars with real sword experience (fencing etc...).  He did quite a few swashbuckling movies when he wasn't being a monster.  It reflects in his hilt on his light-saber.
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« Reply #48 on: July 17, 2010, 04:27:33 AM »

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Most likely no where. I was just playing around a bit with some ideas. I don't want to take away from the Flamberge project.
That and I think Christopher Lee is the only actor in Star Wars with real sword experience (fencing etc...).  He did quite a few swashbuckling movies when he wasn't being a monster.  It reflects in his hilt on his light-saber.
And he was really bummed that they would not let him do any sword play in the movie. During an interview he said he was prohibited due to insurance and union rules. He said he had looked forward to doing it. Theatrical sword fighting is quite interesting in that it is backwards from competition sword play. What do I mean. Well without getting all technical with terms. Lets say we are doing a real duel and you my opponent attacks with an overhead swing. I will counter by bringing my sword up and across in front of me to block yours. In this case your offensive action resulted in my defensive counter. In theatrical sword play we still have the same roles, you are the attacker and I am the defender but it is not you that initiates the action. I as the defender brings my sword up into the defensive position and you as the attacker then strike my sword with the overhead swing. With a good theatrical performance it goes so smoothly and quick that you never notice that the defender leads the action. In bad ones you can easily see it especially if large heavy swords are being used. The Princess Bride is an excellent example of great theatrical sword play and Conan is a poor one where you can easily see the defender moving into position before the attack.

OK enough. Get me talking swords, guns or flying and it's tough to shut me up. Grin

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« Reply #49 on: July 17, 2010, 06:20:27 AM »

Your right.  I never thought about it before but I can picture it.  That's interesting.  It's only 6 am and I learned something.  Looks like I'm free for the rest of the day lol.

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The Princess Bride

"You killed my father, now prepare to die!!"  Classic Cheesy

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Conan is a poor one

Love the movie but it's bad all around.  And then Red Sonya, Oh God.  But the worst ever is Hercules goes to New York aka Hercules goes bananas.  Probably one of the worst movies ever swords or no swords.  But if it's on I gotta watch it.
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« Reply #50 on: July 25, 2010, 03:34:04 PM »

Ok, I've gotten some of the thrusters moved forward (thank you capt Rudolphus), I'm just trying to figure out where the rest of them need to go.  Man, there are a crap load of thrusters on this thing.
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« Reply #51 on: July 25, 2010, 04:10:12 PM »

Can you attach a screen shot, show us where you put them..?
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« Reply #52 on: July 25, 2010, 04:37:14 PM »

Shouldn't this be up in one of the development boards?
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Seahawk72s
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« Reply #53 on: July 25, 2010, 05:17:34 PM »

Under "Non Fleet Add-Ons"...?
Outside of a few thruster co-ordinates I'm not sure this is going any further..

"Theres a new "bug" in town".... Cheesy
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Jurak Nicrue
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« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2010, 05:13:34 AM »

Uhhh, can some one provide a link, or at least pm me a link, as i would very much like to take this ship for a couple of flights.
Thank you.
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« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2010, 05:21:48 AM »

Uhhh, can some one provide a link, or at least pm me a link, as i would very much like to take this ship for a couple of flights.
Thank you.

It's a project Bloodworth is working on and I am not sure of the progress at this time. I know he was mostly talking about it at Orbiter-Forum.com so you my want to check there.
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« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2010, 05:38:09 AM »

It's available on Orbit Hanger.  And there's a lot more there too.  Spend some time looking through it if you can.  It was an easy search with either bloodworth or Flamberge so keep that in mind before you finally have to ask  Wink  

http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=4702
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Jurak Nicrue
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« Reply #57 on: August 22, 2010, 08:18:30 AM »

Thank you! ^^
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